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11/10/09
Anyway, what's the point of Bada? Why not just throw Android on there and be done with it?
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kills self #samsungbada
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.....*steals Kaiser's wallet then calls police*
*quietly walks away* #samsungbada
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"It's not quite ready for stylus-free use, and the HD2's screen doesn't come with—or support—those forsaken almost-pens of yore. "
Is this true?
WinMo can't do without a stylus?
Even fingernails won't do?
If so, it's a dealbreaker. #htctouchhd2review
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That said I'm sure that any of the bevy of iPhone stylus would work if its really a deal breaker. #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
erm thanks? But I think you're not getting my question.
I read the review on 6.5.
It said that it'd be hard to use, not impossible, without a stylus. (who uses one anyway?)
My point being I like the HD2, and if there are some settings that I'd rarely need to change, but which I could at least still use my fingernail when I need to then, I'm fine. The horror scenario being radio buttons placed so close together that'd require pinpoint accuracy that only a stylus could provide. Cos that's the impression Giz is giving me about WinMo.
Regards to a capacitive screen, am wondering if the fingernail (keratin) is also a conductor? Cos what you're saying is that a stylus won't work cos it doesn't conduct, right?
Hope you now understand better what I'd like to find out (if you're trying to help, that is).
Thanks anyway.
PS. Is being earnest a sin on Giz? #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
You can't use a fingernail. The reason a fingernail worked is the same reason that a stylus worked. It pushes in on the resistive screen and makes the connection that the screen registered as input. Thats not there on a capacitive screen. Your fingernail doesn't "conduct" (at least as far as touch screens are concerned, don't try sticking your fingernail in a light socket) and won't register on the screen.
They really do make iPhone styluses (if that was the part that you thought was a joke). If it really comes down to being an issue its an option. 6.5 is supposed to be more touch friendly but as they mention (and you keyed in on) its not 100% there yet. There are menus and settings where they are pretty close together and a stylus would help. Its not going to be impossible (might take a couple tries) but it could be a hassle, especially if you have large fingers. Like I said though you could get a $2 pen that will work with the screen, throw it in a draw, and pull it out when you find yourself in one of those difficult menus so I wouldn't really think of it as a dealbreaker.
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On the HD2 though, you'll need to use a finger and not a nail. From what I've seen, Sense UI covers almost everything and even the bits of WinMo that are left over have larger, finger friendly controls compared to WinMo 6.1.
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man, that was an awesome answer, you addressed everything. Am thus enlightened but have unfortunately nothing to offer you in return but my gratitude and respect.
PS. guilty as charged, thought the "iPhone stylus" was cheeky... #htctouchhd2review
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I still have yet to see a remote access option on either the iPhone or Android that I would prefer over the trifecta available on WinMo (RDP, pcAnywhere, VNC), and WinMo has had RDP for nearly a decade... #htctouchhd2review
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All that's done is to gloss over the software ("it's all HTC") without saying anything +ve or -ve about it, and the end with "It's still Windows Mobile."
SO FREAKING WHAT? If the fact that the OS is Windows Mobile presents a problem, would it be so hard to point out what that problem is?
Don't point to the 6.5 review, for two reasons. 1) That review was criticizing 6.5 for not being as much as it could/should be at this point, not that much of inspecting what's actually there on its own merit, but more importantly 2) Don't point to that review because you say HTC covers up everything!
This review had very little to say, starts out in biased tone, and ends with the assumption that "it's Windows Mobile" explains everything. #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
But let me ask this one thing John, and I'll ask for something really hard here: if you completely forget HTC Touch HD2 has WinMo running under the UI how bad the software is compared to a similar Android phone or the iPhone?
Because seriously, trolling and fanboyism apart, for someone reading this post alone, there is absolutely no real information that tells us why we should consider the software on the cellphone bad.
Being able to replace all basic functions on a OS could be viewed as "trying to hide it", but it could also be seen as the OS being highly customizable.
Lots of portable devices and computers uses highly customized Linux versions, and that's usually not because the manufacturer is trying to hide something... it's only trying to give it a different look to offer the users a fresh or more adequate UI to fit the hardware.
Now, I'm guessing WinMo 6.5 is worse on benchmark, functions, bugs or whatever to justify that bias. Can't think of nothing else. And I'm really hoping there is a better reason for this review other than pure trolling. #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
How much of an improvement would you say HTC's retelling of WinMo is over the standard version on other phones? #htctouchhd2review
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Frankly, I'm not all that convinced that Android is really ready to take over in all respects anyway. #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
In fact it sounds like everything went perfectly smoothly in the actual implementation but the fact that it ran Windows Mobile(which has 0 effect on the actual experience) in the background was used as a negative.
I don't care one way or the other if you don't like WinMo(I use Android myself) but at least give the reasons why it lowers the quality of the phone by stating problems experienced, areas where the UI gets killed, etc. As is, it was made to sound like the god phone that you(the author) hates for no reason whatsoever. #htctouchhd2review
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That's why. If it has little to no effect on the actual user experience then it means absolutely nothing. I'm not asking him to say why he dislikes winmo, but how and where those facets he does dislike show themselves in this phone. If they don't, then the fact that it has winmo doesn't matter at all and it's back to sounding like it does now: This phone is amazing in every way. #htctouchhd2review
11/09/09
This is the first time Windows Mobile has been on hardware this advanced, and HTC has (from all accounts) done a bang-up job of making sure you don't see the underlying operating system, but it seems like the author is pissed that HTC isn't going to do an official Android port, and is taking it out on the device.
I mean, isn't it a net WIN (pardon the pun) when the good things you have to say about the Sense UI include "surprisingly usable", "works surprisingly well" and "impressive", while the only concrete negative (besides vitriol about WinMo in general) about this handset in particular is that the Sense UI is "only marginally effective" at hiding WinMo.
That's not a review of the software, that's just kinda lazy. At least compare the usability of the Sense UI on this hardware to something like Android 2.0 on the Droid. #htctouchhd2review
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The third paragraph that was added in the "Falling Out of Lust with the HD2" section addressed the bulk of my problems with the review as originally written.
Now I know WHY the Sense UI doesn't particularly cut the mustard. #htctouchhd2review
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And leet or "Elite" just means, really really good. #htctouchhd2review
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